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Old 01-28-2007, 10:04 PM
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Even post-Impact, the player sees "through" the Plane and thus the Angle and Arc of Approach Delivery Lines that are actually on the Plane appear on the ground.

Is this why dead straight shots look like pulls?
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:23 PM
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Is this why dead straight shots look like pulls?
Interesting question, glcoach. I've never thought about it that way. But, I can see both the illusion and the reality.

The Clubhead has an Inclined Plane Line-of-Flight and passes Inside-Out -- Down Plane -- through Impact Point to Low Point. The Ball, on the other hand, in a dead straight shot has a Vertical Plane Line-of-Flight. So, assuming a Ball positioned prior to Low Point -- Up Plane -- the Clubhead passes outside the Line of Flight of the Ball. Hence, the dead straight shot could appear to be a Pull as the Clubhead passes outside the Vertical Plane.

But...

Only to the untrained eye.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
Interesting question, glcoach. I've never thought about it that way. But, I can see both the illusion and the reality.

The Clubhead has an Inclined Plane Line-of-Flight and passes Inside-Out -- Down Plane -- through Impact Point to Low Point. The Ball, on the other hand, in a dead straight shot has a Vertical Plane Line-of-Flight. So, assuming a Ball positioned prior to Low Point -- Up Plane -- the Clubhead passes outside the Line of Flight of the Ball. Hence, the dead straight shot could appear to be a Pull as the Clubhead passes outside the Vertical Plane.

But...

Only to the untrained eye.
Although I wasn't referring to ball flight, I think I was trying to make fact of the path of the clubhead outside the vertical plane. But it is good chewing on your posts again.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:33 PM
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Interesting question, glcoach. I've never thought about it that way. But, I can see both the illusion and the reality.

The Clubhead has an Inclined Plane Line-of-Flight and passes Inside-Out -- Down Plane -- through Impact Point to Low Point. The Ball, on the other hand, in a dead straight shot has a Vertical Plane Line-of-Flight. So, assuming a Ball positioned prior to Low Point -- Up Plane -- the Clubhead passes outside the Line of Flight of the Ball. Hence, the dead straight shot could appear to be a Pull as the Clubhead passes outside the Vertical Plane.

But...

Only to the untrained eye.
I had the opportunity to hit some wedges on a lined football field one day, and a 2-5 yard push "looked" like a straight ball and a ball that went directly down the painted line "looked" like a pull. Hence my question.

Thank you for your explanation, that makes a lot of sense.

Another question....What happens on the golf course? Do we instinctively play the push becasue the push is the line our eyes follow, when we line up to the flag? All things being equal, How do we train our eyes to know they are looking down the right line?
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:50 PM
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Another question....What happens on the golf course? Do we instinctively play the push because the push is the line our eyes follow, when we line up to the flag? All things being equal, How do we train our eyes to know they are looking down the right line?
Most players instinctively align to the right of Target, but not because the eyes align for the Push. Instead, the faulty alignment is because the Computer aligns for the Pull. It KNOWS the Clubface will Impact the Ball Square (instead of the desired slightly Open) -- usually because of the Bent Left Wrist or Off Plane Right Shoulder or both -- and hence it will be Closed at Separation. To avoid the Pull, the Computer aims right.

A simple test of this phenomenon is to ask the player to Address the Ball as if he were Left-Handed. Invariably, the alignment to the Target will be perfect. So, the normal 'to the right' alignment is not a case of 'bad eyes' or 'aligning for Pushes.' Instead, it is the fact that the Computer has no conflicting information from the other side of the Ball. And until it learns that the Right Wrist will Bend through Impact or that the Left Shoulder will Turn Off Plane during the Start Down -- thus Closing the Clubface at Separation -- it will not compensate.

Hence, the Square Alignments.
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
Interesting question, glcoach. I've never thought about it that way. But, I can see both the illusion and the reality.

The Clubhead has an Inclined Plane Line-of-Flight and passes Inside-Out -- Down Plane -- through Impact Point to Low Point. The Ball, on the other hand, in a dead straight shot has a Vertical Plane Line-of-Flight. So, assuming a Ball positioned prior to Low Point -- Up Plane -- the Clubhead passes outside the Line of Flight of the Ball. Hence, the dead straight shot could appear to be a Pull as the Clubhead passes outside the Vertical Plane.

But...

Only to the untrained eye.
Interesting indeed.
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Interesting indeed.
I think there is something to this.

I have a path that is definitely inside out a few degrees yet I hit a lot of straight pulls when the ball is most purely flushed.......how can that happen. It would have to mean a leftward path and face that matched........but I don't get a leftward path, its very rare. The ball should be a major pull hook but its not. My best shots are a push or push draw.
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