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http://www.aroundhawaii.com/lifestyl...ns-part-1.html

Saw this from Kelvin Miyahira and thought that it provided a very different perspective on the plane from TGM. Kindly remove this thread if inappropriate.

Jeez where do you start? Kelvin is not wrong , neither is Homer. Was he addressing Homer there?

-Furyk's swing plane is defined in the book , see Turning Shoulder Plane.
-The red line Kelvin disses is what Homer would call the hands plane and yes its really hard to draw on a monitor correctly. Its far better to trace the clubhead path to see whats really going on with path from DTL.
-It would be wrong to assume that Homer thought you should stay on a Hands Plane for a regular shot. Although theres a great little lob shot you can like that .... Homer was all about everything. Homer was not a "one plane only and its the hands plane" guy who Kelvin seems to be addressing.

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I could go for days on this whole question. Lets just say that Homer wanted the path through the ball and the face angle and the hinge action and the Angle of Attack (in his terms) to be consistent with the impact dynamics necessary to hit the shot at hand. That they were machine adjustments.

K here's a shocker ... In the audio tapes Homer seemed to be articulating a preference for a takeaway where the club head ONLY travelled up the Turned Shoulder Plane .... a non shaft plane takeaway. Although the shaft or sweetspot plane does ride the inclined plane on the downswing given CF's influence.

Homer IMO was very different from the "planeologists" Kelvin refers to.

I like Kelvin stuff too. Interesting guy hope he's not lumping any mention of plane in the golf swing into his "planeology " thing That wouldnt be correct or fair IMO. There's cones, planes, plane shifts , non planar ....theres a lot of geometry that jumps out at those who are so inclined to see it.

To subscribe to a plane perspective is not to subscribe to a fixed plane of motion, necessarily.

This video is a nice introduction to things. If you plotted the path of the sweetspot in 3D space it wouldnt appear to be riding a flat plane ..... but it is. Some see it , some dont. Some dont want to maybe.

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