stewart appleby
 

I have been trying to model my swing on stewarts style ,it feels good and easy as,as a HITTER is this right....is he in fact a hitter?

He shot a 59! I'd say that swings definitely capable! He's a former rugby player definitely has the strength great swing to copy! Or should I say hit

A rugby player? are certain of that,he is a victorian Id say AFL

Either way he has the strength to drive with the right arm well

No, it's pretty clear that he is a Turned Shoulder Plane Swinger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4WYg...ture=endscreen

[quote=MizunoJoe;88750] No, it's pretty clear that he is a Turned Shoulder Plane Swinger

Why the No? What are you saying no to?

[quote=airair;88751]The question brownman asked - "is he a Hitter?"! :confused:

[quote=MizunoJoe;88760]That means you disagree with
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...highlight=load

Hard to tell with Stuart, to my eye I see a hit, but it could easily be a swing, only Stuart knows. Whichever he is, he is physically able to do either quite well. Hit or swing if u copy this motion you will be in good shape...

[quote=airair;88761]That discussion is from 2006, the video I posted is from last yr. I watched him quite a while on the range at the 2001 US Open and he was Swinging back then. I seriously doubt he switched from Swinging in 2001 to Hitting in 2006 and then back again. [-(

At any rate, it is very clear that he is spinning the flywheel in the 2010 video. :exclaim:

[quote=MizunoJoe;88764]I'm no expert, so you may be right. for all I (don't) know The only thing that struck me is that he has always been mentioned among hitters..

[quote=airair;88765]air,

I'm not making that claim from the "expert" angle. Some things don't require an expert level to see. His Swing is rather compact, which may give the impression of Hitting. :scratch:

[quote=MizunoJoe;88768]That's ok by me. I'm trying to be a swinger myself, so it would nice to have him as a model.

compare
 

I think he hits,but can change to swing when needs length and possibly height IMO.
To me his shoulder height hands at top says he hits along with angle of clubface to plane angle.
But when he stretches he changes to swing,im no expert by a mile,its just the way i see it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqGrt...eature=related

also this
 

sorry about 2 post for pics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFEq6...related:salut:

Hitting or Swinging?
 

You can Angle Hinge Swing!

This definitive video will help you analyze Appleby! Note, in particular, his description of the right shoulder spinning the flywheel and starting down "rather quickly" in a Swinging pattern. :salut:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y2fH...1&feature=fvwp

my avatar pic
 

hmm a while since I posted last...

Anyway my avatar pic shows that Apples uses angled hinging (at least on that particular swing:rolleyes: ). Angled hinging is mainly asociated with hitting and therefore most people consider Stuart a hitter. If I remember correct, his swing coach has some TGM-knowledge as well...

I'm no expert at swing analyzing what so ever!

blast off
 

To my highly untrianed eye, it looks like his right arm blasts off in the video. But, you'd have to ask him.

Freeze it at :09 - the right shoulder appears to me to be continuing to drive down-plane at that point and beyond. If so, and he fires the right tricep there as you suggest, he would have to be Switting.

kinematic sequence
 

No player, other than a 40+ hdcp., has the shoulder stop. When you look at the 3-D models instead of making assumptions in watching 2-D video, there are periods of acceleration and deceleration in every segment. When the arm accelerates off of the shoulder, the arm can cause the shoulder to rapidly decelerate but not stop. Just because something is moving doesn't mean that it's not slowing down.

When a major league pitcher throws a ball, the shoulder doesn't stop when the arm begins to throw. It's a faulty assumption to believe that a Hitter's shoulder can't continue down-plane.

Some of us use 4 barrels. And, Homer said it was possible for Hitting.

Good post junebug....agreed many have a caricatured view of what hitting "looks like" and how it "works"...as if somehow the hitter don't pivot....I will always remember your quote..."Is it easier to push a cannon ball that is still or one that is rolling?" what alignments do you focus on when determining if a player may be hitting vs. swinging?

I said, "it looks as if the right shoulder appears to be continuing to drive down plane". I did not say or imply, that it stops or doesn't move down plane when Hitting. :dontknow:

When something is moving and continues on at the same rate, then it's probably not slowing down. :idea1:

I'm proud to say I've never made that assumption! :cheers:

Yes, but instead of cranking against the right shoulder from the top, the right shoulder drives down plane a bit before firing the right tricep, after which, it is pulled down plane by the hands. So it moves down plane, first driven and then pulled. I don't think Appleby is in the "some of us" club, but others may see it differently.

6-h-0
 

Before the mass confusion that started in the 7th edition, 6-H-0 was "Imperatives". Understanding the possible confusion with the 3 Imperatives, the name should have been changed. But, the information therein is great.

I've been misssin the grease man! How have you been?

Greazed! Good! Been unemployed....fixin' to get a new job....where you have to wear pants and stuff....

You guys really work for a living?
 

:laughing9 :laughing9


I love Hitting. I love the smell of Naplam in the morning...


ICT

"same rate"
 

Usually, when a position like that is taken, one is arguing against it's alternative. So, it seemed to be impied.

Even if it was possible for you to measure in 2-D video, how can you assume that "same rate" applies to anything found in a golf stroke? :eyes:

http://www.advancedmotionmeasurement...icSequence.pdf

Isn't lighter better for a Hitter?
 

Maybe I'm stating the obvious Ted, but isn't a lighter club better for a Hitter given solid contact and a solid surface?

ICT

For me, City, I need to have a heavier club to feel the Drag. At least that seems to be what works for me. I find lighter clubs lead to more tension.

There are two alternatives, moving and stopping, not just stopping. :naughty:

It's a rear view and the right shoulder is moving down and in slo-mo. The point was that it looks to me like he's steadily driving through impact, which is Swinging physics, not those of 4-barrel Hitting.