That's an interesting concept..... a repeatable flatspot in an arc. :shock: Attempting to do that could keep me busy for quite some time. :)

You have to give Mclean some credit, though. Overall he developed a pretty good eye. At the time he started plying his trade, there wasn't a lot of video to analyze. It wasn't easy to extricate the critical movements from all of the stuff going on in swings like Trevino's. Plus that was the period when flying legs was all the rage. "Noisy" swings were all over the place. Even Hogan, who was still The Standard, was a magician at misdirection of focus (IMO).

I enjoy McLean's little shows, although not framed for TGM (darn). I'd like him to do Larry Nelson and Craig Stadler for the Hitters.

Charlie

Total agreement.

Learning from a celebrity pro or instructor that teaches feel is a dead end street. Most don’t realize that it is their “feel” they are conveying. I have always felt that perhaps the greatest gift Homer Kelley gave the golfing world is a consistent terminology to help teach. And yet, this is the number one gripe many have about TGM. Feel is “seems to be” and seems to be can be all over the place. Homer isn’t.

I don’t think general golf instruction is as bad as I thought it was, it is their ambiguous language that confuses and prevents students from “getting it.” I remember (as if I couldn’t) the ease Lynn taught us at the workshop- hours, not days or months was all it took to learn.

Hit down with short irons- true.
Sweep with woods, well no, it is still down, not flat. Just swallower, but DOWN.

A user sent us the Moe Norman link - and you will notice we are not hosting that clip and neither is The Golf Channel. We just have a link to it. I actually looked on TGC's website to see if they had any of their shows archived and didn't see any.

So unless someone actually has a clip from the show we wouldn't have access to it.

Does anyone know if Lee actually 'increases' the bend in his right wrist through impact to separation?

That would be the only way to create a 'flatspot' - as the hands drive down, the right wrist bends back - 'leveling' the clubheads orbit into an eliptical shape.

This "flat spot" idea could simply be an ILLUSION.

Yes, but a 'flatter' spot need not be - wide, long, thin divots

Wouldn't you have to change the radius to create a "flatter" spot? There are no flat spots on a circle, but this talk of "flatter" spots is more like an ellipse. And the stroke is a circle.

I will defer to the most knowlegeable, but I'm with you for now. If any arc of the foreswing has a flat spot in it, it's a manipulation. And worse, it's a manipulation that must be REPEATABLE. Timed perfectly.

Using my own limited experience, I get the radius of my arc by the Extensor action working on, and extending my left arm. When extended, it holds the constant radius from my left shoulder. Measures the shot, so to speak. If I move or let my left arm bend, impact and low point get shifted.

Maybe if you hold the lag extra long............ Forget it, a flat spot doesn't make sense and I'm going back to the Basic forum where I belong. :)

Of the clubhead, yes because of the ground.

Of the force, the thrust, no because you are still driving downplane to both arms straight.

So in a sense you are 'scraping the ground', while still driving down, getting that nice thin, wide divot with excellent ball control. Even if it isn't an 'actual', it is potentially a nice way to get people to really feel the bending back of the right wrist.

Hit the ball as low as you can, and you'll get this feel. Get those hands ahead of the ball.

The force is ALWAYS driving downplane, that is what the line of compression is all about, that is what aiming point is all about, driving the hands to both arms straight.

Flat Spot
 

Saying that he has a long flat spot is just his way of saying that he is sustaining the line of compression in non TGM language.